I will likely be resigning from this league, I am still considering, due to the following reason:
I posted a lengthy explanation, two posts, in the pending trades about the Patriots/Packers deal. In my deal, I was getting slightly more (Difference was me getting Harris 95 instead of a 1st); HOWEVER, I was actually giving up damn good talented youth in return. Overall, I was giving up much more than the Patriots are.
Then the head Admin decides to format the trade as mine was, and basically gives up worse and older players, for almost the same value the Packers are giving up.
My trade was voted down due to them saying that I was getting more; now, if the Patriots are giving up less than I was, how could it be even?
In addition, he attempts to side-step it by glorifying how the trade is equal and how he's giving up his "Star HB".
In addition, he DECEIVED the trade by not providing ages (which I will kindly do in my assessment), nor posting full names and positions
I ask the public GMs to look at these trades, and tell me which is more unfair:
- Louisburgrebels wrote:
- Pats Get:
Aj Hawk 90
Tauscher 92
Collins 82
Jackson 79
GB 1st
GB Gets:
Mike Vrabel 90
5th round pick
Lawrence Marony 88
Eugene Wilson 87
Nick Kaczur 81
Kev. Faulk 79
THIS IS PERFECT just look at this
aj
hawk 90 & tauscher 92 =Vrabel 90, Maroney 88, 5th round pick
collins 82 & jackson79 = Eugene Wilson 87
Gb
1st = Nick Kaczur 81 and Kev. Faulk 79 and 6th round rook pick
Agreed in a PM
the only reason this trade can get disapproved is because they prolly dont want the pats getting stacked when IM LOSSING MY STAR RB its a good trade
- Quote :
- San Diego Chargers get:
RB: Vernand Morency 82 age 26
WR: Donald Driver 94 age 32
DT: Justin Harrell 76 age 23
CB: Al Harris 95 age 32
ROLB: AJ Hawk 90 age 23
Green Bay Packers get:
RB:Michael Turner 87 age 25
LOLB:Shaun Phillips 88 age 26
CB:Quentin Jammer 87 age 28
WR:Vincent Jackson 85 age 24
2008 2nd round pick Chargers
2008 3rd round pick Chargers
2008 4th round pick Chargers
I'll even take my time and break it down again, after someone rudely deleted my post:
OLB Aj Hawk 90 = OLB AJ Hawk 90 (same player)
RT Mark Tauscher 92 age 30 = WR Donald Driver 94 age 32 (Roughly equal, Driver is skilled position and higher OVR, but is almost ready to retire)
FS Nick Collins 82 age 24 slightly > RB Vernand Morency 82 age 26 (Collins is younger, so he gets the advantage)
RB Brandon Jackson 79 age 21> DT Justin Harrell 76 age 23 (At first I couldn't even tell who Jackson was, since the head admin didn't even bother to post the full name or position, but Jackson is both younger and better)
Green Bay 1st < CB Al Harris 92 age 32 (While Harris is old and will soon retire, he is still higher rated and is worth more than just a 1st)
As you can see, the Packers are giving up roughly the same, they give up Harris instead of a 1st, but the other players are slightly better than what they gave up in the Chargers deal.
Now, a breakdown of the players the Pats and Chargers gave up:
OLB Mike Vrabel 90 age 32 < OLB Shaun Phillips 88 age 26 (Phillips is almost the same rating as Vrabel, but is a full 6 years younger and Vrabel will soon retire)
HB Lawrence Marony 88 age 22 > HB Michael Turner 87 age 25 (Slight advantage to Maroney, he's slightly younger and better OVR, but Turner could start for several teams)
FS Eugene Wilson 87 age 27 roughly = CB Quentin Jammer 87 age 28 (CB is more important than S, but Wilson is roughly same age and overall, so I'll call it even)
OT Nick Kaczur 81 age 28 << WR Vincent Jackson 85 age 24 (Jackson is superior than Kaczur in both age and overall, and has a huge upside)
HB Kevin Faulk 79 age 31 << 2nd round pick (That 2nd rounder should be around 80ish, roughly the same overall as Faulk, only difference is that Faulk is 31 and will soon retire, and probably won't progress)
5th round pick << 3rd round pick, 4th round pick (This is simple Math)
Hell, when you actually look at it, the Chargers are giving up actual talent and youth, and giving up better players and picks than the Patriots are, yet the Patriots only real difference is that they get a 1st instead of aging 31 year old Al Harris? I understand that Harris is > 1st, but to the extent that the Pats are giving up?
I mean, they said my trade was bad in that the Packers were giving up too much, if that was the case, how the hell is this trade fair if the Pats are giving up less?
Subject: Resignation 
Fri Feb 08, 2008 7:49 pm
